By David Larsen - NZ Herald - Saturday May 16, 2015
They managed to combine easy, witty banter with a very high calibre intellectual discussion about grief, death, our relationship with the natural world, and murderous birds.
"When my dad died, I responded mostly at a very intuitive level, and one of my intuitions was, to cope with Dad's death I am going to train a goshawk. Which is not something I generally recommend people do. They have a bit of a reputation as the psychopaths of the bird world".
In fact, as MacDonald made crystal clear, birds are never murderous: that's a human concept.
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